Rachel Lewis Hilburn talks ‘Fixing Congress’ series with Michael Johnson, a former journalist who worked on the Ford White House staff and served as press secretary and chief of staff to House Republican leader Bob Michel.

Welcome to Enconversation, Fixing Congress Part 3 with Rachel Lewis Hilburn. Listen or read the first two parts of this interview at FIXING CONGRESS PT. 1: Compromise, collegiality, and the shift to vitriol and FIXING CONGRESS PT. 2: Political power and the media.